Thank you ....Socal(((((Gscw))))))

[Crippler]

The GSCW would like to Thank the fans in attendance. We also would like to Xpress our gratitude(sp?) to the Socaluncensored Staff and The fans of Socal uncensored,and last but not least The Staff over @ 1wrestling .com and wrestling observer.com and all the other web sites that care about Socal Wrestling.
w/ out you
"THE FANS"...........WE WOULD BE NOTHING!!!!!
THANK YOU, "Crippler"

[Indy]

GSCW result and how many are fans paid to see gscw?

I missed it due to work. Myabe gscw sell 2/2 tape mmm... i will buy a tape.

[Sergio]

Since it seems the results are on this site elsewhere I will just give my thoughts. The show was decent. The crowd was not very large. I'm not sure how many. Less than 100. I wont go to the next show since there was a three way that was all backyarders in it. And Crayz will be in the main event on the next show. I gave them a chance but any promotion who books guys like Blade and uses backyard wrestlers on the show has blown there chance with me. The rest of the show was decent. B-Boy and Frankie's match was the best.

[XXXtreme]

Pretty good show. They could have definitly cut out the tag team match and the GOD AWFUL triple threat match and then we could have seen Hardkore Kidd vs. Messiah when it was still light outside. Of course, starting on time would've helped too, but since NOBODY ever starts their shows on time, I won't hold it against them.

Best matches were Frankie Kazarian vs. B-Boy, Pinoy Boy vs. Joey Ryan, and Scott Lost vs. Lil' Cholo.

[Crippler]

Well "serge"......once again you prove your "IGNORANCE"! WE had NOT one "BACKYARDER ON the SHOW.(ALL of our workers were TTRAINED) !!!And as for the 3 way ....you FOOL all 3 of those workers were trained By VERN langdon ,Carlito Montoya & SUPREME.This took place at the infamous SLAMMERS......So "SERGE" before you try to SHIT all over us Makes sure you get your "SHIT STRAIGHT"!


The CROWD was 106 w/ 98 paid...not to shabby for a first time fed. (INDY) yes we will be selling tapes. hit us up at our
e- mail.it should be some where on this message board.

Remember folks you the FANS are Valued as well as your OPINIONS ......but please get the Facts Straight !


"CRIPPLER"

[DoronD]

Good luck on your fed. I'll try to make it to your next one. I had to work the day of your debut show.

[CALIFORNIA OBSERVER]

"....you FOOL all 3 of those workers were trained By VERN langdon ,Carlito Montoya & SUPREME.This took place at the infamous SLAMMERS......"

Not too start crap , but Vern Langdon never wrestled 1 match in his life. He was just a mark with $ that worked a bunch of folkes into thinking he was an "old timer"....thats all I want to say about that statement.As far as I know Supreme wasnt at Slammers and was " trained" by Crayz

[Anonymous User]

Verne ran the school over at Slammers. In reality, Carlito Montana (El Toro Bravo) ran the school and did the training during the time that those 3 trained. If you want to take a shot at Slammers, then you need to take a shot at workers like Johnny Webb, Dynamite D, Damian Steele, Uncle Jess, Carlito Montana, Messiah, Homeless Jimmy and all the other guys that came outta Slammers. Thats like taking shots at UPW. Bassman may run the school but he has trainers that do the work. Its the same scenario.

[CALIFORNIA OBSERVER]

point taken and understood. I dont really think its the same scenario .
I never " took a shot " at Slammers moreso at the comment
"....you FOOL all 3 of those workers were trained By VERN langdon ,Carlito Montoya & SUPREME."
Actually the workers YOU mentioned hung in there and have made an impact on our scene and from knowing El Toro Bravo , he will be one of the first to tell ya Vern didnt know shizit about wrestling....maybe about feet but thats another subject....sorry that was bad...eeewwww

[Sergio]

"Well "serge"......once again you prove your "IGNORANCE"! WE had NOT one "BACKYARDER ON the SHOW.(ALL of our workers were TTRAINED) !!!And as for the 3 way ....you FOOL all 3 of those workers were trained By VERN langdon ,Carlito Montoya & SUPREME.This took place at the infamous SLAMMERS......So "SERGE" before you try to SHIT all over us Makes sure you get your "SHIT STRAIGHT"! "

So they are guys who were trained how long ago and have not wrestled in how long? The match still sucked. Also as CO said Vern is not a trainer. Also Supreme sucks. So did Carlito. And so did that match. Also Blade was in a match. Who trained him? I guess the way to be a professional promoter is to come on message boards and insult people and show a total lack of grammar. How about a couple more questions. What makes an XPW security guard think they can run a show? Just another Marketplace fed that is throwing money away. Also did you count wrestlers in your total of 106? There was not 106 there. Are those 3 your friends and that is why they were booked at all? They sucked. That match sucked. And using them and Blade and message board attacks like yours makes GSCW lose all credibility.

[The Game]

Is Slammers even still around? Some people say yes while others say they closed in 1997. Also what is up with Verne Langdon charging $9.50 for info on joining his school? It's almost as bad as Rick Bassman charging you $20 to go to a orientation for checking out Ultimate University!

[pr4mojo]

I don't think there was over 100 people there, but I could be wrong. Props to you guys for bringing in the Messiah on the first show. The show started way too late and the guy at the door was a prick. Not a good first start in my opinion. The dual main event was great on paper, but not so hot when there was no time to show it due to the sun going down. It was way too dark for the main event and you guys had to totally scrap crowning a cruiserweight champion, which was advertised. Some of the matches were complete wastes of time. The triple threat was totally lame and the guy that came out at the end should go back to school. Scott whatever his name was in the tourny was good and so were the two Asian guys. The refs seemed VERY unprofessional, especially the guy who wished he was in Three Count. I saw a few XPW regulars at the show, probably to see Messiah wrestle. It was good to see him in So Cal again, just not in this setting. Start the show on time and cut the fat off the product.

[DC and Steve Rollin]

Ok, here is my review of the show:
-Everyone in the tournament did good
-The Tag Team Match go the crowd going BIG TIME, that Canada gimick REALLY got over.
-Both Main Events were great, except the Messiah/Hardkore Kid was a little short because of the sun going down
-The crowd didnt really get into it at first, but after the Tag Match, and a Dropkick by Pinoy Boy (pop of the night), they started getting into it.
-If they didnt have the 3-way go so long, or have the Tourny Finals instead of it, and they started on time, the show would of been pretty good for a first show.

[CRAYZ]

was the show really that bad ?? i mean it was the first show !
anyway lets go over a few things ..shall we.

As far as I know Supreme wasnt at Slammers and was " trained" by Crayz

A. ya its true i broke him ,kid kaos, tech 9 and ryan mcbain in .
started them out

I wont go to the next show since there was a three way that was all backyarders in it. And Crayz will be in the main event on the next show.

A. if you wont go to the show because im in the main event you must not be much of a wrestling fan. dont you think the messiah and frankie can carry me to a good match ? i had titles put on me when they were both in grade school so give me a little credit . LOL .. and in the last year i worker terry funkand abby the butcher so if im that bad stay at home ..

What makes an XPW security guard think they can run a show?

A. what makes a porn guy whos a mark run shows ? or indy wrestlers run shows ? or movie director? theres fans they like or love wrestling . or think they can make money .. thats all at least there running and give the boys a place to work .

for a first show i would say it wasnt that bad .. i have seen alot worse in 7 years .

[Steve]

I didn't see the show so I won't comment on the show itself. Just a few points from posts on here.

I am glad the Crayz / Messiah feud is continuing somewhere. MPW started this feud and then seemingly just dropped it. If a feud is started in any promotion, good or bad, the promotion should at least try to end it. Just my opinion.

As far as the promoter being a security guard, at least he has done something in wrestling. There are some (wannabe) promoters who have do nothing in wrestling, and are trying to run shows (The lack of sucess those shows are having should be evidence of the importance of being involved in some way before diving into being a promoter). So you can't really hold that against him.

I hadn't really heard of the three guys in the three way either, but I asked someone about them and they told me they were trained at Slammers. The reasoning they told me about them not working in all this time is a little shady but it could be true.

I think on a debut show a clean finish should have been done in the main event. Crayz coming out post match would have been as effective and gave your main event a clean finish.

I have nothing personal against Blade, but booking him seems to be a touch of poison. It is going to be very hard for him to get over his rep and everytime he shows up on a card someone throws out "backyard".

I had other plans Saturday but if I wouldn't have had if the card for the next show is good, I'll be there. Hopefully all the bugs will be worked out.

Steve

[Crippler]

Yo! First i have to say Im sorry for taking a pop shot at you...... I was just upset w/ the fact that people are constantly being disrespectful to wrestling in general. So i hope you take it for what it is worth.

i aint the type to start message board squables , i was just trying to defend people and stuff. As for the grammer part .You got me on that one...... all the stuff you posted about the way the matches looked ,hey thats your opinion and i shouldn't get all but hurt over it. lmao. Late
"just another angry man "
Crippler

[DC and Steve Rollin]

What is the offical date for the next show? I heard March 2nd and March 9th...which one?

[Indy]

Steve wrote in Event and Result

The Hardkore Kidd and Messiah fought to a no contest when Messiah hit the Godsmack on HKK then from out of no where Crayz attacked Messiah. Frankie Kazarian then came out to Messiah's aid, setting up a tag match for the next GSCW show on March 9th.

Cruiserweight Tournamnet Final
Scott Lost vs Pinoy Boy

The Hardkore and Crayz vs Franken Kazarian and Messiah

[bWo4life]

I thought the show was good. all the matches on the card were entertaining except for the triple threat match. I think they could have used some better planning though. If you start your show at 3pm in the winter, they should of at least had some flood lights there just to be safe.
I'll give them some slack though, because it was their first show. They had a better turnout then i thought they would have, and overall, i thought it was a pretty good show.

[The Big Man]

I am glad the Crayz / Messiah feud is continuing somewhere. MPW started this feud and then seemingly just dropped it. If a feud is started in any promotion, good or bad, the promotion should at least try to end it. Just my opinion.



Now I could be off base here, but MPW has not necessarily dropped the fued. They were not able to continue it on the last show because Messiah was working for CZW.

I agree with you on finishing the fued. I think that someone needs to let it run and hopefully MPW will do just that.

[MAYNERD G]

i want to start by saying this was a good attempt at a first show. the things that went wrong can definately be fixed without compromising the action.
heres the things i thought were wrong:
1. the show needed to start on time.
if it started when it was suppose to we wouldn't have had to see the main event in the dark.
2. too many matches with the same people.
i think they need to be more sellective about who works a match. the tournament had the same wrestlers you can see every weekend at wpw. the tournament didn't mean that much to me.
3. mix the card up a bit.
with that many cruiser matches in a row it starts to get boring. seeing the same type of match one right after another makes it harder for the wrestlers to keep the fans attention. the same moves are done in each match making it more difficult to get the "pop."
4. the matches were too long.
when you're trying to fit all those matches on the card you need to give the wrestlers a time frame to work within. there's no reason why the tag match or three way should go longer then the main event.
5. get real refferees.
hassan is an average ref but the other clown didn't know the first thing about reffing. first he came out with silly rubber bands in his hair. i think the first thing they should teach in ref school is not to take away heat from the wrestlers. there is no reason a ref should try and get heat from the crowd when he's calling a match.

there were other things i didnt care for but thats personal prefrence so it really doesn't count.

i liked the main event dispite it being in the dark. hardkore came out and cut his usual promo talking shit on the crowd. then he shit about xpw, how he kicked sabu's ass and now it was time to kick the messiah's ass. the best part of his promo was when he said, "if that fat talestless piece of shit, who couldn't cut a promo if i wrote it for him, pogo the clown was here, i'd kick his ass to". he did his catch phrases and went to the ring. when the messiah came out the crowd was fully behind him. i wasn't sure about this match because they've never worked together but they pulled it off.

the b-boy/frankie match was good. the only thing i didn't like about it was they used too many finishers. i think if a finisher is used it should end of the match. other then that the match was fast with all of thier signature moves being used. the best part of the match was seeing b-boy getting the win. he deserves it.

the cruiser tournament was average. i would have liked to see lil cholo go to the finals. i think my problem with cruisers are once you've seen reckless youth, fallen angel, mike modest or trent acid wrestle you're ruined. its wierd seeing guys go through the motions but when its not as crisp as the veterans it doesn't keep my attention. also the fact i think someone is going to get hurt makes it that much harder to watch.

the tag team match wasn't good. i didn't care for it at all. basically it was filler that didn't need to be there.

the 3-way was horrible. an unnessicary brawl to cover up for the lack of experience. another filler match that didn't need to be there.

as far as attendance goes, they drew a nice crowd. i'd say there was at least 100 not counting wrestlers. the way i see it, it's as many people as i've seen at the last 3 rev pro shows i've been to, combined.

i'm looking forward to the next show if they have one. i'll definately be there.

on a side note, when i saw crayz i knew something was up. why would he be there? it was good to see him get into the action. the best thing about his appearance was they set up an angle for the next show.

should be interesting if it happens.
maynerd

[DC and Steve Rollin]

The Hardkore Kidd and Messiah fought to a no contest when Messiah hit the Godsmack on HKK then from out of no where Crayz attacked Messiah. Frankie Kazarian then came out to Messiah's aid, setting up a tag match for the next GSCW show on March 9th.

Well, Frankie is outof town on the 9th

[Indy]

Originally posted by DC and Steve Rollin


Well, Frankie is outof town on the 9th

Ok, where is he going to indy and face oppensite?

[DC and Steve Rollin]

I have no Idea what you said, but I think you meant...where is he working?...I have no Idea, I just know this from talking to him.

[Anglodamus]

I am not sure, but I think Frankie is going to Zero One with Nova, I think that's what upw.com said.

[SoCal Tom Walters]

RING RING BROTHER! IT'S A WORK!

[Crippler]

I dunno if it is a work ,cause no date is set for the second show. due to Frankies tour w/ Nova....GSCW wants to have him w/ messiah in the tag team main event at the next show.
. from me the angry guy.
"crippler"

[Indy]

GSCW will be running their next show March 9th at a venue to be announced, but it will most likely be in the San Fernando Valley. The main event will be Messiah & Frankie Kazarian vs. Crayz & Hardkore Kidd. They will also have the finals of their cruiserweight tournament.

GSCW should take place at Birmingham High in Van Nuys (2,000 capacity) or Marriott hotel in Woodland Hills (600 capacity).

[blade]

SERGIO IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHO TRAINED ME WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK ME AT THE SHOW?? FOR YOU INFORMATION I WAS TRAINED IN EAST LA BY A GUY NAMED GIL... FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WORKERS AND HAVE TRAINED IN LUCHA YOU KNOW WHO HE IS. I WAS ALSO TRAINED BY REY MISTERIO SR IN THE ROCK HARD RING IN TJ . REY MISTERIO SR TAUGHT ME ALOT.


SO BEFORE YOU COMEBACK WITH SOME BACKYARD WRESTLER CRAP YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRIGHT. ALL YOU FANS ATTACK GUYS LIKE ME WITHOUT KNOWING THE PERSON YOUR TALKING CRAP ABOUT.WE ARE ALL HERE TO ENTERTAIN YOU PEOPLE AND THIS IT WHAT WE GET IN RETURN. WHILE YOU PEOPLE CHEER YOUR "CORE GROUP" OF WRESTLERS REMEMBER IF IT WASN'T FOR GUYS LIKE ME WHO PUT THEIR BODIES ON THE LINE EVERY WEEK YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE TO CHEER FOR.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I LIKE TO THANK THE "FEW" REAL WRESTLING MARKS OUT THERE WHO COME OUT WEEK AFTER WEEK AND CHEER FOR "ALL" OF THE WRESTLERS THAT PUT ON THESE SHOWS FOR THEM...

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BLADE.

[ANTI]

Finally the voice of reason "Blade" has returned. Please turn off your caps button, we all know your madd as hell and aren't going to take it anymore. I think steve should conduct an interview with "Blade" so he could clear up al the rumors that surround his "Stellar" career.
ANTI WROTE
"Steve"

[The Big Man]

The problem is, Blade, that you are NOT entertaining. You are pitiful.

By the way, where do you wrestle every week?

[DC and Steve Rollin]

Acctually...Blade got the most heat from the crowd with his "Canada" gimick at the GSCW show...I don't know if that counts as enternainment or not, but he gets the crowd going. I am not trying to take side, just giving facts.

[DC and Steve Rollin]

Also, before you decide to go to the show, Messiah will be in Philly (CZW) on March 9th.

[Steve]

As far as I know CZW doesn't have any shows scheduled for March 9th. They do have a show Feb. 9th however that Messiah is on.

Steve

[DC and Steve Rollin]

I spoke with CZW a couble days ago and Messiah a couple days ago and they said they got a show on the March 9th.

[MWA staff]

A couple of extra guys trained at Slammers are Mace and XPW's Angel. Mace trained there back in 1994. He was trained by Dynamite D and Ed Ferrera (from WCW/WWF fame). Angel trained there more recently. Verne Langdon doesn't have anything to do with Slammers anymore. Not that we care. Late!

[Indy]

Originally posted by Steve
As far as I know CZW doesn't have any shows scheduled for March 9th. They do have a show Feb. 9th however that Messiah is on.

Steve


CZW returns to the Arena on 3/9 with Justice Pain and his unnamed partner vs. Nick Gage and Nate Hatred, The Messiah vs. Adam Flash, CZW Tag Team champions the Backseat Boyz vs. Eddie Valentine and John Dahmer, and the Overboyz (Samir and Joey Corman from Texas) will return.

Source: Mike S. Johnson of 1wrestling.com Int'l reporter

[Crippler]

Well to answer most of you on Saturday March 30th,
Messiah and Franky will face Crayz and Hardkore Kidd.

we will also see The finals of the cruiserweight tournament
when " Pinoy Boy" battles "Scott Lost" to become the first ever
(GSCW CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPION)

plus many more of your Socal favorites like B boy,joey ryan,
lil Cholo and Vinnie Massoro...... more names To be Announced.

*card subject to change*

[Crippler]

GSCW Has just added 3 more names to the list for the Show on Saturday march 30th. Revolution Pro's owne
SUPER DRAGON & Sho-Gun.

WPW'S Silver Tiger who happens to hold the
CWA's LIGHTWIEGHT Title and will Defend his belt too.......
more to names to be announced soon.

[gscwboss]

the next show is confirmed for march 30th indeed. the main event is set & the sun won't go down this time before they're thru! we're serious about this fed,& showcasing some great workers. bugs will be worked out & belltimes will be met. be patient...do most shows start on time ? so our guy at the door was a prick-not as big as those fuckers that were supposed to come out to help him ! i had a 100+ fever & was delirious...but i came there to put on a show for all in attendence. everyone who stayed to see messiah & hardkore kidd wrestle (yeah...in the fuckin' dark!),saw a great match! everyone gave their best...even referee danny devito & that other little pig tailed punk. the cruiserewights kicked ass...& a new champion will be crowned next show. the messiah is the former (key word "former") xpw world & king of the death match champion. so to set the record straight...no one behind gscw was ever an xpw security guard or anything remotely like it. know what you're talkin' about...before you talk shit. simple as that. thanx for all interest so far. we will be on adelphia cable in l.a. hosted by glenn "diablo" macneil & the one & only larry rivera. the 1st couple of episodes will be available at the next show. tickets/info line (909)-414-4483

[Crippler]

Hey Bro, your opinion is right on the money. But Why are you claiming you the are boss? We all know "HENRY" calls the shots and boy will he be "PISSED" when he sees this! lol
I too had to learn the hard way,so take it for what its worth .
(read my previuos posts) youll see....
Now if you like to express youself feel free to do so,
but please

"DONT MAKE THE CLAIIM YOUR APART OF THE FED" .......
"CRIPPLER"

[Benjamin Tomas]

So, you guys are running a TV show in LA on Adelphia? Are you going to be on Adelphia in Anaheim? The city you taped in? After waiting forever to get in, and sitting through a main event in the dark, it would be cool to see it on tv, as if I could tape the show, it would be worth what I paid to get in. I still stick by the theory that Hardkore Kidd looks 100% better when he wrestles with the aid of either lights or the sun.

Here's a great idea I'm gonna kick down to the GSWA for free: Put on the Hardkore Kidd while the sun is out, then put on the jobbers from the xpw school, blade, and scorpion sky andrews after the sun sets. I believe you will please the fans that way.

But what the hell do I know, I'm just a mark.